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Storm - Special Weapons Dalek

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hi all

with the help of mechmaster down there in the cgi section

and me in the wood and bodyfiller..section :lol:

may i present Storm...a one off special weapons dalek...

brought to life in the real world... ;)

he is not going to be easy and he may take a while

to do..but im going to have a go... :)

alan

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I'm really looking forward to following this build Alan.

Are you planning to use your usual fiendish combination of MDF, filler and 'random objects' or have you something else in mind?

Either way, I know it's going to be awesome! :)

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As build projects go, this ones going to be an absolute blast.

Mechmasters Render is a superb starting point and I hope that Storm will look every inch as magnificent.

The colour too - a "kiss to the past" with its sleek silver and blue echoing those classic builds of the sixties..... everything about the design feels right and it'll look fab amid your other beasties when complete.

So..... whats keeping you? :P

Good luck!

Mark

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hi john

this time on the build i do have a few more tricks

and suprises though....but more or less mdf and filler.. :lol:

and foot power too....you will see why... :)

i have one or two bits already made up so

i will post them as i progress..

alan

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I'm guessing foot power is a good choice because of the potential height of the beast. Either that or a Segway. Looking forward to seeing your 'bits'.

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hi..

the biggest problem with this build and always was is the neck rings... and i will give you an example... without giving any measurements away... ;)

if you were to bond all 3 nsd neck rings together you would be just a couple of mm over.... :o for 1 neck ring for storm.... i have had 1 or 2 goes at these in between finishing off the 2 nsd`s...but so far both have gone on the bonfire.... :lol:

the first ring weighed more than maxx.... :lol: kept me warm for an hour or so... :) the second i tried to do barrel maker style.... but the finish was to messy..and would of taken loads of filler to get it right.... but i have a plan....im going to make them hollow.. or rather filled with expanding foam.... 3 x 3MM rings with blocks stuck round..in between then a skim of filler...and if that wont work I'm in trouble.... :lol:

alan

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Hollow and filled with expanding urethane foam would work. It would be fiddly and I don't envy you having to rebate the recesses back into the underside of the rings, but it would not be impossible.

Its a shame that the rings are not the same size, as it would be relatively simple to make up a mould and have the top and bottom of each ring vac formed in plastic.

Actually, thinking about it... If you had a sheet of Formica or similar flat (but glossy) surface, you could create a series of moulds in clay (useing the same methodology when creating the Dome Profile using a rotating template). This would enable you to sculpt the recesses on the underside of each ring, and then cast off an individual mould for the upper and lower surface of each ring.

As the ring profiles seem to be the same top and bottom (recesses not included) you need only have three templates (the different diameters) cast off the top of each ring moulds first, then cut the resesses into your originals, and then cast off the moulds for the undersides of each ring.

Its an option that you might want to consider. (and I hope I've explained that clearly! LOL)

Hope that your prep work for the build overall is going well, and I'm looking forward to seeing the first of the progress pictures.

Best

Mark

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hi alan

just a small suggestion, make a sandwich of mdf inner and outer edges then ply top and bottom see pic. this is going to be one hell of a trip!

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Hmm.... might be missing something here, but isn't this a case of making two of each ring in the traditional way and then turning one over and gluing them together?

That way the detailing on the underside ring would be relatively easy to achieve as you'd at least have some meat to cut into.

RV

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I think RV might be onto something, the only problem with his idea is that of the weight.

So how about this, you make 6 rings, chamfer the correct angle on the outer edge to give the right shape, then with a wide router piece, rout out an inner track on the sides that stick together.

Effectively its kind of combining Fenris 's idea and RV's, if you cut the discs, put the outer chamfer on then cut out the track on the sticking side then cut out the inside disc you shouldnt have a problem with the strength during production either.

like this;

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You could then pump insulation foam in to give strength to ithe core

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Yep, I like that - the resultant ring could end up being lighter than an original.

RV

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hi all

thanks there are some good ideas there!!! some i hadnt thought of... :( RV,...i did make one out of 3...18mm rings... but the weight of it was stupid... :lol: so i threw it on the log burner... i have gone down the mugsy... fenris route... with my own twist to make them lighter.... the pictures here show parts for just one ring... all out of 3mm mdf.. there is the centre ring...the 2 sloped rings... another sloped ring where the bottom detail is the inner detail bottom ring....the top and bottom... and the inner coller..... :o the 3 sloped rings were cut bigger than was needed... and had a segment cut out...when these rings are pulled together they go into a cone shape that is the right angle for the neck ring.. these are now being glued...and when they are dry will be trimmed and stuck on to the centre ring... then the top and bottom to add and cut out the detail bits on the bottom of the ring, ive thrown it all together for some pics... so you can get the idea... i will trim it all tomorrow and stick it all together and see what it looks like... 1 neck ring in 2 days... :o its not so bad. thanks for the help guys..

alan

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thanks guys...

bodge it and scar-per was my nick name there ian.. :lol: anyway i have been hard at it again...in between rain showers and i have managed to get the ring trimmed and glued together im quite pleased with the way it has turned out... its 2mm too short...but i can live with that.. :lol:

i have put a skim of filler on around the detail on the underside to soften it up a bit.... 1 down 2 to go.... :) and if your still in doubt about how thick these rings are...check out the picture with it next to maxx... and thats the smallest one :o and its really light too...about the same weight as an nsd ring...

alan

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Alan,

Are you sure that's a neck ring and not the rim of a Dalek Mother Ship?? I'm going to review your earlier pics as I can't figure out how you got the conical section with such a smooth curve... :unsure:

Ian :unsure:

Nope that didn't help Keep the kettle hot, I can sense a tour of inspection is due ;)

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the kettle is always on ian you know that... yes thats a ring....now you see why i didnt use solid mdf.... :lol: here is a picture of what it should look like im pretty close... ;)

alan

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